Taller Posture and Hitting the Low Pitch, New Drill Reveal!

Written By: Chas Pippitt

In my "Fix Your Posture, Fix Your Stride and Much More!" article I talked about how striding with a tall posture will make your heel to heel stride more frequent and consistent.  Also, I mentioned that there would probably be quite a few questions about how to hit the low or outside pitch without the commonly taught 'tilt' or 'hip hinge' at most instructors teach.  Many instructors teach this due to the success of LARGE hitters like Miguel Cabrera and Albert Pujols who are big 'early tilters'.  My contention is that the larger you are, the less important the 'full turn' is in the swing due to the mass of the hitters.  Remember:  Force = MASS x Acceleration.  If MASS is higher, then Acceleration (read turn) can be less and the hitter can still generate the same amount of swing force.  This is why Cabrera and Pujols (HUGE guys) can turn less and hit the ball just as far as Blue Jays OF Jose Bautista, Brewers OF Carlos Gomez, or Cubs INF Javier Baez, who are all elite turners.

The video below outlines how we explain the way we think a hitter should turn to the low pitch:

The video below shows the drill we use to get all of our hitters to get on plane early without sacrificing their turn with early tilt.

Thanks for reading!

Chas Pippitt, Leader of the Baseball Rebellion

PS: here's a video of Cubs Rookie Jorge Soler using this move in a game.  Yes, I see this particular pitch is high.  I'm putting this example in as a quick response to a question from Matt on a player doing this move in a game.  Please see my comment response for further explanation.

This video shows one of my older players hitting a low pitch.  Much less "TILT" inward than most people teach and you can clearly see the hips working sideways while the shoulders work down.

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matt morella
5 years ago

for once I have to disagree with you Chad—Tilt is a biomechanical move that allows the same turn mechanics adjusted to different planes. If I follow your logic here, you are saying that I now have to incorporate a different biomechanical move for lower pitches, so, at what point in the strike zone do I no longer use this approach, mid thigh, belt ??? Your golf logic doesn’t hold water because of the difference in shaft lengths between a wedge and a driver, the length of the driver allows for less spinal tilt not the mechanics. Bottom line is that… Read more »

Tony G
Tony G
2 years ago
Reply to  matt morella

Makes perfect biomechanical sense since lateral bending is a natural coupled movement with lumbar rotation. They always happen together.

I’d be curious as to how you would hit the low and outside pitch?

George
George
5 years ago

Hi Chas, The way you describe things makes perfect sense… It completely logical! Your understanding is deep and wide on the body movements used by players to become very good or great hitters — and you have a gift for explaining things so they can be understood… But is it possible there is another factor to consider? It is not a part of the golf swing… only the baseball swing. When you first hear what I’m talking about you will realize its importance in teaching and coaching. It will provide further simplification… And reduce the few still mysterious areas of… Read more »

JohnW
JohnW
4 years ago
Reply to  Chas Pippitt

Why not “batted” breath…:)

Ryan
Ryan
5 years ago

Outstanding information. I’ve learned a ton from you guys at Baseball Rebellion. Everything from your articles to videos to training devices are making a big difference. Thank you and keep bringin’ it!!

-Ryan

Ryan
Ryan
5 years ago

Chas, Great article! I always look forward to new updates on your site as I am a youth coach in the “minority” when it comes to hitting instruction. It is frustrating to see and hear the “hit down on the ball”, “knob to the ball” “squash the bug” instruction that is so common these days. I teach hitters to hit the low pitch with a very simlar approach, but using key words. One of the things I see and use for this is telling the kids to turn the bottom hand under the elbow, not out, which keeps the hands… Read more »

Bobby
Bobby
5 years ago

Ok, I see where you’re going and it makes sense. But maybe you can help explain why, today, Joey Meyers is over on his site promoting “showing your numbers” while “tilting in over the plate” and he’s using Buster Posey as a model. (Posey not being the size of Pujols) Is he using the “spine engine” and you’re not? or is your idea just a different way of using the “spine engine”?
What do you think about “showing the numbers”?

Tweety Bird
Tweety Bird
5 years ago

Chas,

Your info on hitting is mediocre at best. It’s all about Knob to ball man. The MLB needs more guys who have handsy swings haha. Chopping wood is the way to go for hitting mechanics. Gotta get that back spin on the ball to hit mamo tanks like Phil does.

Miss you guys, I’ll be in Durham in December.

George
George
5 years ago

hello this method is this the correct way to swing for all pitches or you are simply just talking about hitting a low pitch with this method? you explain it sooo well thank you

George
George
5 years ago

whats the differences with your methods of hitting and naturalhitting.com? the videos that i have seem from your youtube page you dont talk about the load before you stride? just curious why? can you do a video step by step to your swing method. i would really enjoy watching that video you explain everything soo perfectly soo thats why im asking you about doing a video with you swing method

Justin Mattison
Justin Mattison
5 years ago

Hey Chas, Thanks for the article, the help, the wisdom, the teaching, and being an advocate for the little man (whether it’s a little guy hitting, or a little baseball training center that believes in the same philosophies). My question here will have to do with plate coverage and bat angle through the zone. With an angle like that, my initial thought goes to a big man that was pretty good at driving oppo while staying (Ryan Howard)(from what I saw with the naked eye). That being said, is it simply repetition on the low pitch with the increase vertical… Read more »

Wesley A Kring
Wesley A Kring
5 years ago

So, to boil it down to one essential difference (low pitch vs non-low pitch).

The one essential difference in mechanics when hitting a low ball (as opposed to a non-low ball) is to “side bend my body back.”

If I understand, this means that (while the hips are rotating) the back shoulder dips slightly so that the shoulders point OVER the pitcher’s head rather than at his nose.

PS—Mikiah, a successful football season as a sophomore. Serious All-Conference consideration until hand infection led to hand surgery and missing five games. Just beginning off-season baseball conditioning now.

Wesley A Kring
Wesley A Kring
5 years ago

The dow rod demonstration emphasizes “vertical” movement only in regards to the low pitch. I.e., it is a more horizontal movement (although still not strictly horizontal) for belt-high and higher pitches, right?

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

Your demo, shifting your weight first, then laterally tilting…..is a swing killer.

Gabe Dimock
Editor
4 years ago
Reply to  Teacherman

Rich,

Would you agree that separation occurs between the lower and upper halves as the pelvis turns like a merry go round and the upper body begins to tilt like a ferris wheel (back shoulder coming down, front shoulder coming up)?

-Gabe

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

Wet met 6.5 years ago. You still do not have a hitter that overlaps. And you never will until you learn how and when the weight shifts

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

You don’t recall that I said your hitters don’t overlap?

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

To Gabe.

Yes, but your problem is you can’t define upper and lower half correctly.

To Chas.

Again….learn to overlap. How many times do I have to say it?

Gabe Dimock
Editor
4 years ago
Reply to  Teacherman

Rich,

Thank you for responding. I think the back hip should turn and begin to thrust which causes the back knee to turn in and the back heel to come up. In my opinion, this allows the pelvis greater mobility and increases separation and stored energy. At the same time, the shoulders should begin to tilt (more like a ferris wheel) to start the barrel in the right direction as the separation occurs. How would you alter this definition of upper and lower half? What do you mean by overlap?

-Gabe

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

You will never overlap until your hip is the upper and your leg is the lower.

That is the only way you will match high level hitters.

Your statement of the hips being the lower and the shoulders being the upper is why your hitters can not pass the video test.

And here’s what’s most interesting. Your throwers do it. Your hitters don’t.

Gabe Dimock
Editor
4 years ago
Reply to  Teacherman

Rich,

Thank you for more clearly defining your thoughts. So you would have the back knee turning in before the back hip?

-Gabe

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

The rear hip NEVER turns in. It becomes fused to the leg when it coils….and the LEG turns the hip/leg assembly…..while the hip does it’s level best to NOT turn forward.

There is a rag wring like load/stretch in the rear hip socket. Hip coiling. Leg trying to turn forward.

The lateral bend you speak of…..IS THE FUSED TORSO laterally tilting over/around the ball of the rear femur.

THAT…..is the only way you can overlap.

Tell em where you got it.

Gabe Dimock
Editor
4 years ago
Reply to  Teacherman

Rich,

Relax man. It’s been one day and we’ve been busy. I think many of our hitters do match great hitters. (Go to our twitter page and watch the first video of Spencer.) I like the gears image you showed. I think it makes lots of sense with the rear hip being the driver and the shoulders tilting to create depth and separation. In my opinion the leg movements we see come from the action of the driver.

-Gabe

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

awaiting moderation

awaiting moderation

awaiting moderation.

or

Hmmmm…..maybe I’m (they’re) wrong

KC Judge
Editor
4 years ago
Reply to  Teacherman

Rich, My name’s KC Judge. I’m the head of strength and conditioning here at Baseball Rebellion. I was in the hitting program the last 3 years of my professional career so my insight isn’t from that of an instructors standpoint but from one who used this information at a high level. I think you’re hyper focused on the lateral tilt in itself and not the more important aspect in regards to what causes the lateral tilt. The lateral tilt you’re proclaiming to be a “swing killer” is a product of the rear oblique turning on and it happens after the… Read more »

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING.

That kid has no chance regardless of his exit speed. He is not and never will be ‘quick enough to the ball’ with those mechanics.

What good hitter goes down to AND down through the ball?

You and Chas’ problem is YOU DON”T SELL OUT TO THE VIDEO.

The Video is not your guide.

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

Exit speed determines how far.

Quickness determines how often.

He ain’t very often.

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

Notice Bonds is UP THROUGH on both swings.

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

Want more…..Spencer has NO CHANCE on the outside corner.

He’ll stare at it….strike three….because he can’t get to it. His swing only offers ducksnort flares on the outside pitch.

Why?

Because the energy of his swing is in the wrong direction.

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

KC Judge,

If you know so much….why can’t any of you produce a hitter whose swing matches the pattern of the greats.

You can’t do it.

Yet…..you claim you are right.

That is ego, not truthseeking.

Teacherman
Teacherman
4 years ago

“”is a product of the rear oblique turning on and it happens after the back hip starts to turn in towards home plate.””

The above…..is absolutely a false statement. the back hip NEVER independently turns in toward home plate.

And your belief…..that it does….is why you can not produce the belt loop movement of Pujols, Bonds, Cabrera, Manny, Ted, Mickey…..all of them….as they laterally tilt.

You can’t do it.

Please at least admit your students do not match that overlap.

Gaz Chaud
Gaz Chaud
4 years ago

Richard,

Could you post on your blog some video of a couple of your pro players, documenting changes you helped them implement?

Also, could you post video of your most improved player?

That kind of documentation would help, and making you look less like a raving lunatic.

Calvin Baxter
Calvin Baxter
3 years ago

I am not saying you are wrong or arguing!….only throwing some thoughts on the page. I feel like these mechanics you show are really good for power, but lack on swing plane when compared to the guys like Miggy and Pujols (or Ted Williams or Daniel Murphy). And it isnt that you cant get on plane with the low pitch..you clearly do, but I think the low posture has an ability to change the swing plane and react to what the pitcher throws more easily. For example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Um-baoK2U There is Ted clearly with the tilt you when his front foot… Read more »

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